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Property Management Excellence (PME) training podcast series

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 Podcast topics include the following with many more avaiable. 

Welcome podcast and what the podcast is all about (first podcast released) 

Not all business is good business - why we should sometimes say no thanks

Tips for dealing with vacant property

Do people buy people or do people buy a brand?

Dealing with difficult people; tips for PM’s 

Without people we have no business

Income producing vs non income producing activites

Electronic signatures and tenancy lease contracts

Queensland smoke alarm laws for rental property

How do people find your agency? Online presence 

McDonald's and property management

Entry condition report - if the tenant does not return within the legislative time frames

Desperate professionalism in property management

Property management isn't difficult; people can be. The big C.

To do today, to do tomorrow, to do eventually. Tasks and time mangement tips for property managers.

New business tip - do your own podcasts

The egg timer property manager

New business tip - the first 24 hours after listing

Don't make or take a phone call without this system - tips for property managers

New business tip - has your agency got a You Tube account?

Minimum housing standards for Queensland rental property

I hope the title property manager dies before I do

Tips for Property Management Excellence success

Rules of entry; a tenants' home. Know the law. 

How to deal with rude people; tips and more 

Imagine not getting paid; look after your contractors 

Property managers cannot always be available

Lease renewals; does your agency work for free?

Best practice documents recommended to be used when signing up a new lessor client

Dispute and self resolution tips for property managers

Smile when you dial - tips for phone calls 

Did you get my email phone call or 2nd emails; tips for PM’s on how to avoid 

The 5 reasons property managers carry out routine inspections

Outsourcing and property management - my concerns

Landlord Public liability insurance; a reminder for PM's

Property management tasks and time management 

How do you know who you are dealing with?

Mould in rental property - tenant and landlord responsibilities

Natural disasters and property management best practice tips

Tips for creating and maintaining a successful property management business

Tips on educating landlords as why they should have landlord insurance

Tribunal for property managers - tips for success

What is the role of a career property manager - welcome to the wonderful world of property management

Script for client landlord not wanting to sign management agreement contract.  

Time management tips for property managers

Landlord newsletters and how easily they can be done, plus why they should be done

Proactive property management - maintenance 

Tips on how to survey landlord clients easily

New business tips for growing the rent roll (for BDM's)

What do you do for your management fees? Overcoming landlord objections tips

The KPI's you should have for your property management business

RTRA Act review Queensland - what you need to know (as at 17th January 2019)

Tenancy sign up best practice tips

Entry condition report best practice procedures

Setting up a property management business tips

Application forms and processing best practice

What is thank a property manager day?

Vacate/Final inspection pre vacate best practice tips

Task management vs Portfolio management

How many properties can one property manager manage?

Happy staff = Happy clients. Culture and staff retention

Property Management Excellence  (Queensland)

Rent arrears best practice tips

Rent arrears and the landlord

Why are property managers so mean to each other?

ANZAC day laws for Queensland real estate agencies

Property Management - the pros and cons

February 2019 Real Estate Excellence member office update 

March 2019 Real Estate Excellence member office update

April 2019 Real Estate Excellence member office update

Future podcast online training for PME system member offices

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$90 000 stolen by scammer in real estate transaction

Sourced article 25 November 2018

Best practice note from Stacey Holt Real Estate Excellence -  The sourced article is below this practice note. We recommend banking details not be updated and or changed unless all parties as listed on the title search have signed a form such as below. Real Estate Excellence member offices; you can find the form below at Member online, PME system folder, and then folder 27 Trust accounting. Identification should always be sought for all clients upon listing property for sale and rent which marries up with the title search. Banking details should never be updated via an email only without signatures matching the listing authority.f

Real Estate Scammer Steals $90,000... And Nobody Cares


A Brisbane businessman had a deposit stolen from him, and nobody seems to want to fix it.

More than 5 months ago, Andrew Buckley, former CEO of Cardno, sold a property for $1.2 million, through the Ray White agency at Mermaid Beach.

As part of the deal, $120,000 was deposited in a trust account. As the sale proceeded, the agency took $30,000 in commission from theaccount, then asked him to email them his bank account details.

He did. But then so did someone else. Another email was sent with false bank account details. And the remaining $90,000 went to someone other than Mr Buckley.

The agency sent the money to a Westpac bank account based in Sydney. The money has not been recovered.

Amazingly, according to Mr Buckley, nobody will take responsibility for the missing money.

He said he has even gone to the authorities, who have done nothing.

"I'm incredulous that no one seems to want to fix it."

He said he was "flabbergasted" that no one even called him to check on his bank account details. They simply sent it to the other account.

"As far as I’m concerned … this is a well-known scam.

"The advice is that businesses double-check … two-step verification. It’s particularly if it’s changing your bank details."

Ray White has blamed the situation on Mr Buckley. An email later sent to him regarding the matter claimed it was his fault: "The fact that it has now come to light that it was not Mr Buckley who sent those written directions is as a result of Mr Buckley’s own failure to ensure the security of his email account."

Mr Buckley, however, said that while his email could have been hacked, it could just as easily have been Ray White's email that was hacked. He said that ultimately, that is irrelevant as the agency has a responsibility to verify the details. "You're looking after someone else's money."

The agency refused to speak to the media. The head Ray White office also would not address the issue directly, although it said there had been 4 known instances of "cyber interference" in the past year.

A memo was sent out to Ray White agencies last month, warning agents to "never accept a change in bank account details via email without confirming its legitimacy with your client."

That memo seems a bit late to be able to help Mr Buckley.

In a statement to the media Westpac said that account names are not used for payments, but instead they rely on the 6 digit BSB (bank-state-branch) number plus account number.

Mr Buckley was advised to go to the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) for help. But OFT was of no assistance either. In a letter to Mr Buckley, OFT wrote that there was "insufficient evidence to support a breach of the Agents Financial Administration Act 2014 … or the Property Occupations Act 2014 in relation to the transaction."

He said that he might be able to sue to get his money back, but he is concerned that a suit would just eat up the money he was trying to get back.

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Thank a property manager day

Thank a property manager day 27 November 2020

Thank a property manager day is a day 'invented' by Stacey Holt in 2012. A day that is long overdue to celebrate. I know, everyday is thank a property manager day. The day is usually celebrated on the last Friday of November each year.

27th November 2020

 A day for all to stop, think, and celebrate the wonderful role that property managers play in society.

Organise a breakfast, lunch, morning tea, something, and stop and say thank you career managers of tenancy and property. Even if you have to thank yourself (if that is the case, contact me and I will thank you!)

I would love to see your photos of celebration!  #thankapropertymanager #thankapropertymanagerday

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Agent ordered to pay $750 000 for 'stealing clients' and database

Rival real estate agent to pay Toops $750,000 after settling case

Harris Real Estate and one of its agents have agreed to pay Toop Real Estate $750,000 after the prominent Adelaide Hills agent used confidential files in breach of her contract and lured clients to Harris.

The settlement, executed in the District Court today, says Hooper used the files to develop business with rival agency Harris Real Estate, where she is currently employed.

Hooper ended her employment at Toop in June 2015 after disciplinary action was taken against her.

At an earlier District Court hearing, Toop sales and marketing CEO Genevieve Toop alleged that Hooper had “cracked” during a meeting at the agency’s Norwood offices in May 2015 when she realised the disciplinary action would make her ineligible for the company’s annual awards.

Hooper ended her seven-year employment at Toop on June 29, 2015, and commenced employment with Harris RE the following day.

The settlement said Hooper executed seven sales agency agreements on behalf of Harris Real Estate while still employed at Toop and altered at least 13 client records in Toop’s customer database by downgrading recorded interest levels of those clients from “hot” or “warm” to “cold”.

Hooper agreed she had printed data of more than 240 clients in Toop’s customer database with the intention of using the data to benefit of Harris Real Estate and had solicited work from 15 people who had done business with Toop.

Hooper also accepted she had enticed another employee of Toop to resign from the agency and take up employment with Harris Real Estate.

Toop’s lawyers had argued Hooper’s actions resulted in close to $30 million in property sales, which would have earned the Toop business commissions of more than $237,000.


Both Hooper and second defendant Harris Real Estate were today ordered by Auxiliary Judge Clayton to pay Toop RE $750,000, which includes interest and costs, within 21 days.

“I congratulate the parties and their advisors for arriving at a settlement,” Clayton told the court.

“This result is one which demonstrates commercial nous.”

Hooper was not present at today’s hearing but said in a statement to InDaily that after “a great seven years at Toop and Toop it is disappointing that things have ended this way.”

“It has become clear to me that our current employment contracts do not allow clients to choose who they wish to represent them,” Hooper said.

“This is something that needs to be addressed in the industry in the long term.”

Hooper said she was grateful for the support of Harris Real Estate and was looking forward to moving on “with clear air”.

The Toop family described the settlement as a win on behalf of “quality real estate agencies around Australia” in a statement issued after today’s hearing.

“TeamToop and FamilyToop have made a stand for integrity in business,” the statement said.

While employed at Toop, Hooper took out REISA’s hills salesperson of the year award in 2014. 

InDaily has contacted Harris Real Estate founder Phil Harris for comment. Sourced from September 24 2018

Agent's handshake found not to be a crime


Reasons for decision


  1. The applicant asserts that she is a victim of violent crime and has suffered injury as a result. The victims of crime scheme provides that eligible victims may be eligible for financial grants and access services under the Victims Rights and Support Act 2013 (the Act).

  2. In order to be eligible to recover under the scheme, a victim must either be a primary victim (the victim of an assault), or a secondary victim or family victim. As will be explained in these reasons, victims of crime must meet various statutory tests to receive benefits under the scheme. In the current matter, the applicant has failed to establish that she was a victim of a violent crime (the statutory term being ‘act of violence’) in accordance with the Act, and as a result her application for review will be dismissed and the decision of the respondent will be affirmed.


  1. On 7 February 2018 the applicant filed an application for administrative review with the Tribunal. That application concerned how the respondent had dealt with her initial application and internal review for Victims Support.

  2. The application for review set out the following grounds:

I disagree with the decision by Victims Services as:

1. It was primarily based on the police report E64919537 (which was inaccurate and contained numerous factual errors).

2. It should have been based primarily on medical reports from my treating health professionals, myself and my son (a witness of the action).


  1. On 3 June 2013 the Victims Rights and Support Act 2013 replaced the former Act – the Victims Support and Rehabilitation Act 1996. (the 1996 Act). Both schemes provided for similar eligibility criteria, with the main difference being the manner in which they provided support and assistance. The current Act replicated the 1996 Act central provisions as to an eligible victim of crime. The relevant current provisions are set out in the following sections of the Act:

5 Meaning of “victim of crime”

(1) For the purposes of this Part, a victim of crime is a person who suffers harm as a direct result of an act committed, or apparently committed, by another person in the course of a criminal offence.

(2) A person suffers harm if, as a result of such an act:

(a) the person suffers actual physical bodily harm or psychological or psychiatric harm, or

(b) the person’s property is deliberately taken, destroyed or damaged.

(3) If the person dies as a result of the act concerned, a member of the person’s immediate family is also a victim of crime for the purposes of this Part.

(4) If a person dies as a result of the act concerned and there is more than one member of the person’s immediate family, members of the immediate family may nominate a representative for the purposes of the Charter of Victims Rights.


19 Meaning of “act of violence”

(1) In this Act, act of violence means an act or series of related acts, whether committed by one or more persons:

(a) that has apparently occurred in the course of the commission of an offence, and

(b) that has involved violent conduct against one or more persons, and

(c) that has resulted in injury or death to one or more of those persons.

(s-19 has seven further subsections that are not relevant to this determination)_


20 Meaning of “primary victim”

(1) A primary victim of an act of violence is a person who is injured, or dies, as a direct result of that act.

(2) A primary victim of an act of violence extends to a person who is injured, or dies, as a direct result of:

(a) trying to prevent another person from committing that act, or

(b) trying to help or rescue another person against whom that act is being committed or has just been committed, or

(c) trying to arrest another person who is committing, or who has just committed, that act.


  1. There are various statutory tests which need to be met before a person can receive benefits under the Act. The administrator (the Commissioner of Victims Rights) understandably focussed on these threshold issues in both the initial decision and the Internal Review decision. It is therefore necessary to examine these threshold tests. The first is whether the applicant is the victim of an act of violence.


  1. There is no dispute that the Tribunal has jurisdiction to hear the matter. Section 51 of the Act provides for administrative review by the Tribunal.

51 Application to Tribunal for administrative review of decision concerning recognition payment

(1) An applicant for a recognition payment who is aggrieved by the decision of a decision maker in respect of the application may apply to the Tribunal for an administrative review under the Administrative Decisions Review Act 1997 of a decision made by the Commissioner following an internal review under section 49 of the decision maker’s decision with respect to the recognition payment.

(2) An applicant for a recognition payment who is aggrieved by the decision of the Commissioner in respect of the application may apply to the Tribunal for an administrative review under the Administrative Decisions Review Act 1997 of a decision made by the Commissioner.

  1. Nor was there any dispute that the application had been lodged within the 28 day period provided for by the operation of the s 55 of the Administrative Decisions Review Act 1997, (the ADR Act) and cl 23 and 24 of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal Rules 2014.

  2. The application under s 51 of the Act followed an internal review under s 49 of the Act. That review on 10 January 2018 reached the same decision as the original decision maker had on 6 October 2017. The Assessor had dismissed the application as the applicant had not established that she was the victim of an act of violence as defined in the Act. The application to the Tribunal was subsequently lodged on 7 February 2018.

  3. The Tribunal’s powers in relation to an application for administrative review are governed by s 63 of the ADR Act, which provides:

(1) In determining an application for an administrative review under this Act of an administratively reviewable decision, the Tribunal is to decide what the correct and preferable decision is having regard to the material then before it, including the following:

(a) any relevant factual material,

(b) any applicable written or unwritten law.

(2) For this purpose, the Tribunal may exercise all of the functions that are conferred or imposed by any relevant legislation on the administrator who made the decision.

(3) In determining an application for the administrative review of an administratively reviewable decision, the Tribunal may decide:

(a) to affirm the administratively reviewable decision, or

(b) to vary the administratively reviewable decision, or

(c) to set aside the administratively reviewable decision and make a decision in substitution for the administratively reviewable decision it set aside, or

(d) to set aside the administratively reviewable decision and remit the matter for reconsideration by the administrator in accordance with any directions or recommendations of the Tribunal.


  1. At the hearing the applicant appeared in person and the respondent was represented by an employee Solicitor. The applicant was assisted by her adult son who whilst having some involvement in witnessing the incident or part of the series of events in question, was not required to give evidence for either party. Only the applicant gave evidence in the hearing.

  2. The following material was filed by the parties in support of the respective positions:

Applicant’s written evidence

  1. The applicant filed written material in support of her application.

  • Application for Administrative Review dated 4 February 2018 including grounds - Exhibit ‘A-1’.

  • Statutory Declaration of applicant 27 March 2018 – Exhibit ‘A-2’.

Respondent’s written evidence

  • Documents filed under s 58 of the ADR Act dated 1 March 2018 (51 Pages) – Exhibit ‘R-1’.

The respondent also filed and served written submissions dated 23 April 2018.

The administrator’s decisions

  1. The application to the Commissioner of Victims Rights concerned matters alleged to have occurred on 27 May 2017. When asked to briefly describe what happened, the applicant stated:

Part 3 : Briefly Describe what happened:

‘I attended the auction of the property (detailed above and in the enclosed brochure). The real estate agent for the unit -‘X.X’ – put out his right hand and took my left hand in his. He squeezed my left hand very hard and left my hand swollen and in pain. I reported the assault to my doctor (see report by Dr ‘R’) and to the police, however the offender denies causing me the pain and suffering.’

  1. The initial assessment of the claim occurred on 6 October 2017. The decision maker recorded the following:

2. the applicant seeks approved counselling services with respect to that act of violence under section 26 (1) (a) of the Act.

Reasons for Dismissal

4. the application form states the applicant attended an auction and the real estate agent for the property put out his right hand, took the applicant’s left hand and squeezed it hard causing pain and swelling.

5. As stated above, an act of violence is an act that has apparently occurred during the course of the commission of an offence and involves violent conduct.

6. based on the information before me, I am not satisfied an act of violence has occurred in accordance with section 19 of the Act.

  1. The decision maker went on to dismiss the application. In applying for an internal review the applicant provided medical material concerning treatment receipts for physiotherapy and a medical certificate from her G.P. Dr ‘R’ stating that she was the victim of a physical assault. On 10 January 2018 on review the Senior Assessor reviewed the available evidence in some detail. The police actions and records were set out showing the inquiries made and the evidence obtained by police from the alleged perpetrator.

  2. Near the end of the decision the following is recorded:

21. I accept on a balance of probabilities that there was a handshake between (DJD) and the real estate agent; however this was in the context of saying ‘goodbye’. I do not accept on a balance of probabilities that the real estate agent assaulted her. There were no witnesses to the incident other than her son who was in the room next to her. He disputes that (DJD) screamed after the handshake and said an ambulance was not called to the location. This was at odds with (DJD)’s explanation to police. There was a lengthy delay of 3 months prior to (DJD) deciding to report the incident. Her version of events changed in the course of speaking with police. I accept the real estate agent’s explanation that he was saying ‘goodbye’ to (DJD).

22. The submissions by (DJD) suggest that a handshake could amount to an assault because she was injured. In my view, the conduct of shaking (DJD)’s hand was not reckless or violent. …

  1. The Senior Assessor concluded that the applicant had not provided sufficient evidence to establish that she was the victim of any act of violence. The application for review was dismissed.

The hearing

  1. At the hearing the applicant made several statements from the bar table. I determined that much of what the applicant was asserting was more in the nature of evidence than submissions and as a result she was required to be sworn and to give evidence. I explained the procedure of the hearing and the difference between evidence and submissions to the applicant who was not legally represented.

Applicant’s evidence and submission

  1. In the applicant’s Statutory Declaration dated 27 March 2018 the following information relevant to the matter is submitted.

  • On Saturday 27 March 2017 the applicant attended the auction of a strata property in a Sydney suburb. At the end of the auction the real estate agent gestured to the applicant (a handshake invitation) and took her left hand in his right hand and squeezed it very hard.

  • The applicant told her son about the matter immediately (her son having been a couple of meters away along the hallway of the home unit).

  • The applicant’s left hand became swollen and she was in severe pain for several months.

  • The applicant reported the matter to her doctor and attended several physiotherapy treatments and continued to find using her left hand very difficult over the ensuing months.

  • On 29 August 2017 the applicant reported the matter to NSW Police. The police attended the applicant’s home that evening in respect of the reporting for about 20 minutes. Event Number E64919537 was created as a result.

  • On 29 September 2017 an application for Victims support was made.

  • The applicant attests that the police report E64919537 is grossly inaccurate. Specifically the applicant denies telling police that :

She screamed or shouted as loud as she could (when the handshake occurred)

She told police that she fainted at the scene and an ambulance was called.

Her son suggested that the Real Estate Agent’s request for charity donations may have been misunderstood by the applicant as sexual advances.

She continually contacted the Real Estate Agent via text messages asking him ‘what are you doing’.

Or any evidence that she changed her story with police .

  • The police had no basis to make comments concerning the applicant’s possible or likely mental health issues.

  1. At the hearing the Tribunal utilised the provisions of s-38 (2) of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal Act 2013 to examine the applicant in the absence of any representation or cross-examination. The section provides:

38 Procedure of Tribunal generally

(1) The Tribunal may determine its own procedure in relation to any matter for which this Act or the procedural rules do not otherwise make provision.

(2) The Tribunal is not bound by the rules of evidence and may inquire into and inform itself on any matter in such manner as it thinks fit, subject to the rules of natural justice.

  1. The applicant gave evidence that she had met the agent at an open house viewing of the property on 13 May 2017 some weeks prior to the auction date. The applicant contracted influenza sometime after the open house date and was still suffering from the flu on the day of the auction.

  2. The auction concluded. The applicant said to her son:

‘I want to say goodbye to ‘V’ (the agent).

  1. The agent put out his hand gesturing, and squeezed it tighter and tighter. The applicant stated that she was pleading in her heart for him to stop. Her hand was throbbing. The applicant dropped her phone.

  2. The applicant bandaged her (injured) hand herself. (A photo of the bandaged hand is in the s 58 documents). The applicant did not obtain medical treatment at the time.

Respondent’s submissions

  1. In written submissions the respondent stated that the applicant has not established that she is a primary victim of an act of violence and is not eligible for a recognition payment.

  2. The respondent submitted that whilst the applicant had provided medical evidence concerning an apparent injury or problem with her hand, that evidence is dated some four and five months after the date of the claimed incident.

  3. The respondent also highlighted the discrepancy in the applicant’s earlier evidence as set out in the police report. In addition the agent denies any assault and the applicant’s son who was nearby said he did not witness the incident.

  4. The son’s statement on page 34 of the s 58 bundle states:

‘(DJD)’ waited for (the Agent) at the entrance of the kitchen. (The Agent) said to ‘(DJD)’ “I’ll call you next week,” then put out his right hand and took ‘(DJD)’s left hand in his and pressed it.


  1. I infer that the information in [29] is what the witness observed. The statement goes on to record what (DJD) said and did following the incident. I note that none of these matters immediately following the handshake were in contest. The matters in the police report however (concerning screaming and calling an ambulance) were in contest. However these matters do not specifically concern the alleged act of violence but may be relevant in determining the credibility of witnesses.

  2. I note in particular that the applicant did not wish her son to give any evidence at the hearing and only sought to rely on his statement. In addition I note that when police eventually obtained a version of events from the son, that version is broadly consistent with his statement. The discrepancies appear to relate to what the applicant has stated at various times. It appears that the discrepancies surrounding the incident relate only to the applicant’s evidence. The central incident is clearly disputed between the applicant and the real estate agent.

  3. I also note that the applicant did not seek to call the reporting police officers to clarify these discrepancies. I also note that when the police questioned the son the record shows that he provided a possible explanation as to some misunderstanding between the applicant and the agent. Again I observe that in the absence of further evidence either from the police or the son, this issue cannot be resolved. However the applicant tendered her son’s statement.

  4. In addition when the applicant complained to the agent’s employer the evidence indicated that she did not adequately supply the particulars of the incident. The delay in medical treatment has not been explained by the applicant.

  5. There appear to be two statutory impediments to the applicant’s claim succeeding. The clearest impediment is the apparent failure to meet the requirements of s 39 of the Act. Section 39 provides as follows:

39 Documentary evidence

(1) An application for victims support is to be accompanied by such documentary evidence as may be required by the approved form.

(2) Without limiting subsection (1), the documentary evidence to be required:

(a) for an application for financial assistance for immediate needs under section 26—is documentary evidence (such as a medical or police report) sufficient to support, on the balance of probability, the applicant’s claim to be a victim of an act of violence, and

(b) for an application for financial assistance for economic loss under section 26 or 27 or for a recognition payment—is a police report or report of a Government agency and a medical, dental or counselling report verifying that the applicant or child who is the primary victim concerned has actually been injured as a result of an act of violence.

(emphasis added)

  1. This mandatory requirement was introduced into the Victims of Crime scheme with the 2013 amendments to the scheme that resulted in the current 2013 Act. The Victims Support and Rehabilitation Act 1996 (the old Act) contained no such mandatory requirement even though the statutory phrase and meaning of ‘act of violence’ was expressed in identical terms to the current Act. The police report does not in my view support any act of violence in the nature of a deliberate or reckless act that could be classified as an assault.

  2. The medical evidence does not specifically identify the cause of any medical issue. Whilst some of the reports recite the origins of the injury they do no more than provide what would appear to be a history given by the applicant. I also note that they were provided between four and five months after the incident. The G.P. report of 22 September 2017 curiously states that:

This is to confirm that Mrs (DJD) was the victim of an alleged physical assault on 27/5/17.

(Emphasis added)

  1. I also note that the medical reports do not arise in the circumstances required by s 39, in that they are not a report from a Government agency.

  2. The other issue relates to the requirement for the matter to have ‘apparently occurred in the course of the commission of an offence’, as set out in s 19 (1) (a) of the Act. The legal concepts of mens rea and actus rea are relevant in all acts of violence under the Act notwithstanding the use of the term ‘apparently’ in the section.

  3. At law Mens Rea is generally meant to be the state of mind which is required to commit any kind of crime including property crime and crimes against the person or other types of crime. On the other hand, Actus Reus means the physical acts of the accused person which are required to be shown at trial to establish that an offence has been committed.

  4. Both Mens Rea and Actus Reus must exist simultaneously. On the evidence and material before me the actions of the alleged perpetrator do not meet the criteria of Actus Rea. The evidence in the son’s statement, namely that he observed the agent ‘put out his right hand and took (DJD’s) left hand in his and pressed it’ does not establish to the requisite standard physical acts to establish that an offence (of violence) has been committed. The agent denies any assault.

  5. There is no evidence to establish that the agent intended to assault the applicant. I make this observation based on all of the evidence including the totality of the applicant’s own evidence. The un-particularised issue concerning charity donations does not in my view (even on the applicant’s own version) indicate such a motivation or intention concerning the agent.

  6. In respect of the element of Mens Rea, I note that it is possible that the agent may have intended to harm the applicant. In addition his state of mind on the available evidence was such that the element could be technically met. However, on the evidence before me his actions appear neither intentional or reckless. The police spoke to the agent, his employer sought details of the complaint from the applicant (to no avail), and the applicant’s son made a statement as a witness. All of this material did not advance that applicant’s argument that the agent assaulted her.

  7. The medical evidence does not particularly assist. The G.P.’s report is many months after the incident. The photo shows a dressing that the applicant applied herself. There was no professional medical treatment at the time of the incident or shortly afterwards.

  8. The Tribunal must be satisfied on the balance of probabilities that the agent intended to harm the applicant, in that it must be more likely than not on the available evidence that this was the case. In my view the evidence does not establish that it was more likely than not that the agent intended to harm the applicant.


  1. I do not find that the agent had the intention to commit a crime while he was shaking the applicant’s hand.

  2. Further I do not find that the agent committed a crime by shaking the applicant’s hand firmly or in some other physically hard or aggressive manner.

  3. I find that the applicant has not established that she was the victim of an act of violence.

  4. I also find that the applicant has not discharged her onus under s 39 of the Act.

  5. The applicant has understandably focused her application before the Tribunal on overcoming the issues identified by the earlier decision makers. Whilst s 39 of the Act was not specifically referred to in those decisions it was referred to in the respondent’s written submissions filed and served 27 April 2018.

  6. I note that the issues concerning whether an act of violence occurred were always central to the application.


  1. For the reasons outlined above, as the applicant has failed to establish that she was the victim of an act of violence, and has not satisfied the provisions of s 39 of the Act, the application must be dismissed and the decision of the respondent affirmed.


  1. The decision of the respondent dated 10 January 2018 is affirmed.



I hereby certify that this is a true and accurate record of the reasons for decision of the Civil and Administrative Tribunal of New South Wales. Registrar

DISCLAIMER - Every effort has been made to comply with suppression orders or statutory provisions prohibiting publication that may apply to this judgment or decision. The onus remains on any person using material in the judgment or decision to ensure that the intended use of that material does not breach any such order or provision. Further enquiries may be directed to the Registry of the Court or Tribunal in which it was generated.

Decision last updated: 17 July 2018

Sourced from 18 July 2018